cotonti.com : Siena https://www.cotonti.com Последние сообщения в теме Cotonti en Tue, 03 Feb 2026 04:42:38 -0000 Kingsley ]]> ср, 09 фев 2011 23:32:00 -0000 pieter
I'm busy with a skin theme for Siena (with only 1 n) and it is more or less the same.
There are some things changing, but they are more logical.

Thanks to the conversion I learn a lot about Siena and the new features.
And sometimes you need to search, but tou find new solutions with the new features to make the side more attractive and more easy to use.]]>
ср, 09 фев 2011 22:21:47 -0000
Trustmaster not going to switch our financial model or stop releasing stuff for free. What we have done with Siena tends to attract more coders to have more free stuff available. The lack of documentation is a big problem and we will do our best to solve it.]]> ср, 09 фев 2011 21:52:55 -0000 Dyllon # Kingsley : it is safe to assume that this means that the variety of plug-ins will stay stable and the professional users will either write their own plug-ins, or make paid ones. Now I do not mind paying, but as my last purchase showed, you almost never buy a complete thing, or it interferes with other plugins, which make one of the two unusable.

i can almost guarantee just because sienna is aimed to a "professional" audience, that all currently existing plugins will be ported free of charge. There are very few people here who actually sell their plugins.. so what makes you think that will change?]]>
ср, 09 фев 2011 21:51:58 -0000
GHengeveld object-oriented fashion. We have some parts that are like that, but everything that you'd normally have to look into is not. XTemplate has always been OO, and now the database handler is replaced by PDO, which is object-oriented too. Trustmaster also added a caching system which is OO too.

As far as complexity goes, Siena doesn't add much to the basic stuff. It's only the lower (less visible) code that has gained complexity. Most changes you'll have to deal with are changes to the directory and file structure (such as the new 'modules' directory, which contains stuff that used to be in 'system'). For plugin developers, the change in database abstraction layer is probably the biggest change, although there is a wrapper plugin which mimicks the old behavior so old plugins will still work.

Like Dyllon said, you just have to get used to the changes. Don't worry, it's not all different ;-)]]>
ср, 09 фев 2011 21:43:23 -0000
Kingsley I am asking this because, in all fairness, you have to know alot about php too (and it's strings) in order to fully use it.
The lack of documentation (being from existing possibilities to what will be new/changed added) draws me to conclude it (Sienna) will be meant for the more professional community members.

Don't get me wrong, in the years from Seditio to Cotonti I have grown fond of the system and it's fairly relaxed community. But as Cotonti grows, we (my clan) does too. I have been looking around, and it occured to me that other cms do a lot more when it comes to plug-ins. The support for it is wider.
As you can read on the frontpage

cotonti web:
The community itself is also set to be changed. We intend to aim at a more professional audience and we're working on a new website for Cotonti.com.

it is safe to assume that this means that the variety of plug-ins will stay stable and the professional users will either write their own plug-ins, or make paid ones. Now I do not mind paying, but as my last purchase showed, you almost never buy a complete thing, or it interferes with other plugins, which make one of the two unusable.]]>
ср, 09 фев 2011 21:31:05 -0000
Trustmaster ср, 09 фев 2011 21:26:00 -0000 Dyllon ]]> ср, 09 фев 2011 21:04:11 -0000 Kingsley
have been here for a while, but with the upcoming release of Sienna, I do have some questions.

Does Sienna changes that much that it won't be doable for people like me? Will this update filter out the hobbyists and aim its arrow only on professionals?

If so, what CMS is a good replacement for cotonti?]]>
ср, 09 фев 2011 20:47:44 -0000