cotonti.com : wholy crap... slowness ? https://www.cotonti.com Son konu mesajları Cotonti en Sat, 31 Jan 2026 01:17:12 -0000 RaisenBran It's wayyy faster now, thanks smiley

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Cum, 23 Eyl 2011 02:22:01 -0000
unleashed #30802 urlkiller:

about ipad - it has a cache too.... empty it !

 

Thanx, it worked)
 

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Per, 22 Eyl 2011 19:03:02 -0000
urlkiller again a load test from empty cache...

http://www.cotonti.com/datas/users/cot_loadtime_2_39.png

much much better!!!

about ipad - it has a cache too.... empty it !
 

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Per, 22 Eyl 2011 12:32:15 -0000
Trustmaster #30799 unleashed:

problem in entering the site via iPad.

It takes 10-15 sec to open both the main page and forums. Check it please

Could you borrow me your iPad, huh? :)

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Per, 22 Eyl 2011 11:36:04 -0000
Kingsley @ Trustmaster

click link plz: http://x-ecutionerz.com/Untitled-1.jpg (small skin bug)

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Per, 22 Eyl 2011 10:54:06 -0000
unleashed problem in entering the site via iPad.

It takes 10-15 sec to open both the main page and forums. Check it please

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Per, 22 Eyl 2011 08:49:53 -0000
foxhound Yes, a much more fluid experience again. Thanks for fixing!

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Çrş, 21 Eyl 2011 19:00:36 -0000
ez indeed... thnx

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Çrş, 21 Eyl 2011 17:42:31 -0000
Kingsley indeed, the slugginess is gone now.. thx

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Çrş, 21 Eyl 2011 16:04:28 -0000
Trustmaster Hey guys,

I'm just back home from a vacation and ready to reply to some posts here.

Our system administrator reported huge packet losses while transmitting from the Hetzner datacenter a few days ago, so I suppose such long requests were caused by that. Currently data loss is about 10%. So it shouldn't load static resources for several seconds anymore. As for global.js, it may be generating for up to 10 seconds or so sometimes (only when it needs to regenerate the cache because of changes in js/css files) because of JS/CSS minification slowness, but this is very rare.

As Gert noticed, this has nothing to do with Siena, this is our host problem.

Added 13 minutes later:

Some static files are still slow to load, these are mostly CKEditor's files loaded via AJAX.

Added 18 hours later:

Found a bug in JS consolidator which results into huge global.js, see this issue.

Added 6 hours later:

Fixed the consolidator bugs, the pages should load much faster now and eat less bandwidth.

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Sal, 20 Eyl 2011 12:56:36 -0000
GHengeveld I think you're missing the point in the definition of 'not stable'. The word suggests that the software causes unexpected and random bugs. However in this context it's used to mean 'not proven to be without bugs'. In practice it means the software is 99% stable, but since improvements are still coming up regularly, it's not acceptable for high-load, popular websites. I think the core is stable enough, it's mainly the modules that still have some bugs. Personally I think Siena is already stable enough for 90% of websites.

The page creation time is the time it takes PHP to generate the page (from incoming request to flushing the html to the browser). The browser calculates something entirely different, namely the page load time. The page load time is the sum of the request time, page creation time, download time for the html and download time for all the other resources (css, images and javascript), in that order.

Aparently the problem with the load time on cotonti.com is caused by the loading of resources, not the page creation time. This means it has nothing to do with the engine. Siena or Genoa, it won't make much of a difference.

Judging by the screenshot urlkiller posted, it's caused by the javascript consolidator that generates a 1.3mb file. It will take some time to figure out why it takes so long to load, and why the file is that big in the first place.

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Sal, 20 Eyl 2011 12:03:06 -0000
urlkiller i agree when it comes to loading times - huge files... 15seconds loading from from empty cache.

http://www.cotonti.com/datas/users/unbenannt_39.png

 

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Sal, 20 Eyl 2011 12:00:07 -0000
ez http://www.cotonti.com/datas/users/cot_load_494.png

The loading is not purely what is said on the bottom (footer) of cotonti... page created
The loading and also the user experience is depending on many different things... like the amount of JS that is executed by the client.

The screenshot illustrates it: it is a screenshot from Firebug and the page (this post) takes 4 seconds to complete all its tasks..
Page created says 0.217 s  (but remember page created is server Side !!!!, that is the time to push out the HTML)

Can anyone confirm my Firebug numbers.... to rule out my internet and PC

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Sal, 20 Eyl 2011 10:08:50 -0000
schulle4u For me cotonti.com loads in approximately 100 to 300 MS, depending which page is being loaded. The main page needs some more time to load while forums and other subpages come up faster, sometimes under 100 MS. Maybe the main page needs some more time because of the github ticket counter? But even 200 MS are not that bad in my opinion.

Steffen

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Sal, 20 Eyl 2011 08:27:13 -0000
Kingsley @ esclkm

well, uhm, maybe the response of trustmaster and others? that Sienna still isn't stable enough for live sites. Think they'd know if it's stable or not.
One of the reasons that I'm not using Sienna is because of the response of my question here:

http://www.cotonti.com/page/siena_094_released#comments

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Sal, 20 Eyl 2011 08:07:49 -0000
esclkm If you haven't tried, what do you know about its stability )))

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Sal, 20 Eyl 2011 07:31:32 -0000
ez Hi there,
No I meant this website... i dont know the cause, but this site is sluggish..
I have never tried Siena yet... because its not a stable release.

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Sal, 20 Eyl 2011 06:29:39 -0000
Kilandor This sounds like a problem with your host. I assume you mean on your sites.

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Pzt, 19 Eyl 2011 22:02:47 -0000
GHengeveld Are you talking about this website, or the CMS in general? We have migrated to another server a while ago but that has only increased performance as far as I know. The switch to Github has also reduced load on the server since it no longer has to run Trac (which is an extremely resource demanding application, with memory usage over 90% for a single page load).

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Pzt, 19 Eyl 2011 21:06:51 -0000
foxhound Performance here is bad, I confirm. I guess some bugs in this version might be causing it (just try to search for example).

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Pzt, 19 Eyl 2011 21:04:25 -0000
ez Maybe i am terribly mistaken here... but Cotonti has become slow in loading...... a   660ms (onload: 3.41s).
(and these numbers are with cached files..)

maybe its just the server ???? or could it be Siena ??  (I am not used to this in genoa), and maybe I am just crazy.. 

(I do see a wopping 1.3Mb JS file... whoooaaa)

I am allready sorry for my remarks, but I am a speed junky... i really like speedy websites..
(I probably get pissed over now...)

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Pzt, 19 Eyl 2011 20:06:07 -0000