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I think you are right. To some extent. Cotonti can never reach the popularity and user friendliness of Joomla, Wordpress and Drupal, so it's just a waste of time at this point of view. Yet there are people who are not satisfied with those 3 for some reason, so they look for alternatives. Also there are people who got used to this system over years and don't want to give it up because they have no need to. Finally, you can hardly make a valuable contribution in the world of Wordpress or Joomla, while in the world of Cotonti every new plugin or article is a major contribution and every reasonable suggestion you make gets heard sooner or later. I think these are the 3 reasons which keep this project going.

It seems you mean Siena when you say "its soo much more complicated than it used to" and that it's caused by plenty of APIs and functions you haven't seen before / aren't used to. Overall though, the code has got shorter because these new functions do a lot of things you had to do manually before. And you are not even obliged to use them. There are some arguable advantages like PDO which has been disputed recently, and we try to pinpoint them and find a reasonable solution of the problem. But the main problem is that there are new things and new things are often considered wrong no matter what they actually are, because it is quite painful for human beings to learn new things when they don't really want to. You have to do it though from times to times, no matter what system you use. Just choose the right moment to learn and stay with the old one until then. Some would argue that it is more profitable and easier to start coding for Wordpress and Joomla than switching from Cotonti Genoa to Cotonti Siena. It is probably more profitable, but isn't so easy: while Genoa and Siena are different at some points, Cotonti and Wordpress are completely different.

I don't want to prove somebody's wrong, these are just a few things worth considering.

BTW, Russian posts are filtered out on the homepage unless you pick Russian as your language.

BTW2, Olivier is relaunching Neocrome.net and releasing Seditio v151 soon.